Questions like this have probably been asked to death, but why don't we just shoot 682 into space? I mean he's a real dick and I think he would make a great astronaut.
Because the main goal of the Foundation is to SECURE, CONTAIN and PROTECT. Not to kill.
Except for the part where the Foundation has actively been trying to kill 682.
Well, 682 is old Canon, so new Canon would not allow for that, at least within my own head canon. Canon you dig it?
Unless in new canon we found something even more dangerous. Honestly they'll never be able to kill it. The Foundation may prefer to preserve SCPs but in some cases destroying them is the only choice.
Why don't we just take 682- *pauses, then makes dramatic hands movements toward a volcano* AND THROW IT INTO A VOLCANO?!!
I don't think that's been done.
Guys, semi-necro here, I know, but what The Foundation can and cannot do is headcannon; so if you think that Crunch is cannon, or that 049 isn't cannon, so therefore it's illogical to say "That's old cannon" and "Nope, this is new cannon" as… you know, different people my have a different view on what is and isn't cannon.
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I guess the Foundation wants to make sure the thing is dead. For all we know, it can adapt to grow rockets out of its as$ and come back…, free….
I think this is the third time I've had to type the following sentence:
We tried to shoot it into the sun, but it came back with wings and on fire.
Zyn… I seem to be stomping all over your replies today. I'll shut up now.
Duuuuude it's fine. Don't worry about it. Nothing wrong with more than one person posting replies to stuff. (Also you can totally just make an edit to the last comment you made; you don't need to make a whole new comment just to note that I happened to post too)
Because what if it survives and adapts to space? Or adapts to something, like, a black hole?
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Because 682 is a plot device. He's the generic unkillable monster we can't seem to get rid of. If a story featured 682 legitimately dying, it wouldn't be any fun… except for that one time. Or that one time Djoric did it in-universe. Or that one time Djoric wrote a story about it.
Anyway, the point is that 682 is unkillable and will always remain so. There will never be an official death for 682, just as there will never be an official death for Bright or SCP-1440. They'll all live, miserably, forever.
I do hope you're not confusing me with Djoric again, because I know I wrote a story about it (or rather, 682 died in Quiet Days).
That's just another in a long list of stories featuring a perma-dead 682. I think the Djoric story is called "Three Long Days" or something. It features the Esoteric Warfare Unit and an "adult" 682 (682 is an adolescent in Djoric's headcanon… I think). But yeah, 682 will never be truly dead.
What if 682 has to live for reality to be maintained? What if we would experience a ZK-Class scenario if someone actually managed to kill it?
The difficulty with that is how would the Foundation determine that a ZK-Class reality ending scenario would occur if 682 were somehow actually killed? There's no way to know for sure without actually killing 682. And, if killing 682 triggers a ZK-Class scenario, we have a Catch-22 situation. It just strikes me as very odd that 682 is so hard to kill and seemingly reconstitutes itself from almost nothing every single time. Almost as though Reality Itself wants 682 to exist.
People are always hating on 682 for being a generic,kills you, series one plot device but i honestly think that is was makes it good. I mean the newer scps and some older ones have such complicated stories and powers that you have to read it several times to get what it means. I think it good to see a scp that isn't super complicated. And no matter how hard anyone tries, 682 and all the series one monsters will be the face of the foundation forever.
Anyway as for shooting him into space… i think he will just adapt to space and just land on some other planet and do whatever but it could be a good way to get rid of him. Until he returns with an army!!!
Honestly, if they tried to shoot the bugger into space, he would evolve to stop their efforts.
And even if he did get into space, he would just evolve a turbo jet thing on his back and just fly his way back or something.
Now that people have covered the main relevant points about what 682 is and does….
….let's consider the actual question.
Why DON'T we shoot him into space? Arguably he evolves stuff to be able to resist attempts at killing him, but not so much for the sole purpose of breaching containment. The examples shown typically show he takes what people use against him and turns it back on them, which then temporarily gives him the power to breach containment again….
…when he's just contained in the acid bath as usual, it doesn't seem that much happens.
So if shooting him into space was treated not as a way of destroying him, but as a form of containment, one where him breaching containment would result in lower casualty rates, why wouldn't we try it?
It does seem reasonable.
However, I think the answer as to why not is a mixture of Zyn's answer and pootis's answer. 682 apparently evolves to counter existing threats. If 682 was in space, and breached containment(which he inevitably would in all likelihood), he would then be exposed to the vacuum of space…which he would quickly develop a resistance to. Then he would be exposed to the danger of being trapped, immobile, in space. So he'd develop a countermeasure for that(aka a form of propulsion). Then he'd find he couldn't get places he wanted to go as quickly as he would wish to….so he'd develop a faster form of travel. Then he'd encounter the hazard of being meaningless in a mostly empty universe….so he'd find a way to find earth again, and come blazing back.
This might be taking it a bit too far, but I do believe if he were sent off into space, no matter how far away, he would simply find a way to return, and not out of love for humanity.
He'd only return on fire if you shot him into the sun though. Don't do that.
However! If a containment base were established on another planet, and staffed(with some type of clones perhaps), in a self repairing base that actively hunts him down anytime he escapes….then 682 might never discover any hazard to his existence or relevance, and thus be kept away from Earth in a relatively safe fashion. If the cost of containing 682 on Earth got to be too high, I'd say it was worth a shot.
He resists stuff that changes him; but what if they don't do that; what if instead, they modify the whole Universe around him (leaving him intact), to produce a universe where there isn't anyone else; but just before that, transfer everyone (but not him, of course), to a clone universe that doesn't have him in it?
Somehow I think that if the Foundation could just create whole new universes like it was a parlor trick that 682 would be pretty far down on the "List of Things What Need Fixin".
Shouldn't this thread be in 682's discussion? Meh. Whatever. It seems I already commented here.
If the Foundation were going to evacuate the universe, what's to keep 682 from following us? More than that, couldn't the Foundation just dump him off somewhere if they have the resources to make universes? (Hint: they tried that under circumstances that nearly got SCP-507 killed. They just ended up with another version of 682, one from a parallel universe.) I say no, no getting rid of him that way.
I'm going to ask why not just send 682 to a different planet. I know that it would adapt, but it wouldn't bother the foundation anymore since it's away from all of us disgusting life forms.
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We tried that too with Foundation After Midnight's Foundation Space Program run. It didn't die, it just adapted and got angrier.
Whatever you think of to kill it it will just overcome and come back angrier.
Why don't we use 682 against another SCP that needs decommissioning? Just hope it's not Omega-7 all over again.
Stuff 682 into a missile and shoot it at Able/the Daevites/1548,etc.
To quote toadking07,
"Whatever you think of to kill it it will just overcome and come back angrier."
But yeah, anything that could possibly kill 682 will be vetoed by the narrative for our (the readers) enjoyment. Hence, I offer the following response:
Able: the one time we actually kill it, it just respawns because it ate Able and gained his powers.
Daevites: the Daevite civilization is not only restored, but is now composed of magic-blood-augmented 682s.
1548: 682 comes back on fire (Into The Fiery Orb With Ye). And speaking Morse Russian in a tone that blows out eardrums.